chlorophylliac: (neutral - phosphoresce)
Pamela Isley | Poison Ivy ([personal profile] chlorophylliac) wrote2012-09-05 09:41 pm

011 || Video

[It's been a long while since Ivy last surfaced on the Barge network. She's sitting on deck, one wall of the greenhouse at her back; her mood's taken a swing for the contemplative. Or rather, a swing for the 'let's talk about plants so I don't threaten you all with the ludicrously OP superpowers I totally have now, thanks T'Pol'.]

Nikolai Vavilov.

No, I don't anticipate anyone knowing the name. He was a Soviet botanist and geneticist, most famously credited with Vavilov Centers - the eight geographical regions he identified as the origin points for the human domestication of crop plants. He was also an academic colleague of William Bateson, who I hope at least some of you know was first on Earth to use 'genetics' to refer to the study of heredity.

His ideas didn't go down well with Stalin. Naturally, his ideology had no time for the notion that a living thing could be innately superior to its siblings - genetics was the science of fascism, at the time. He was alternately marginalised and blamed for massive food shortages, not least by a former protégé who invented a more palatable theory.

[She pauses for thought.]

Vavilov died in prison. Of malnutrition, ironically. But that's not my point.

His other legacy to the world was one of the planet's first seedbanks. He had collected almost half a million seeds and roots from across the globe in the hope of making that diversity easily available to his successors, and perhaps to protect those species from the predations of an increasingly hostile, polluted world.

[Her tone's darkened and a moment she looks like she's about to derail into something angrier and less educational, but her brow smooths out and she goes on.]

The Soviets didn't recognize its significance, of course. Even as they were emptying out their museums, they had no idea that Hitler was more interested in the real treasure hidden in Leningrad. When the city was besieged, they didn't even try to protect it. Twelve scientists - unsupported by their government, followers of a man already dying in prison - these men took it on themselves to guard the bank for over two years.

Surrounded by tens of thousands of seeds they knew to be nutritious, nine of them voluntarily starved to death.

[She sounds about as impressed by this as Ivy will ever be by the self-sacrifice of a male human, i.e. 'not actively disgusted'. The vines around her wrists shift and writhe as if they're fidgeting.]

It isn't widely known. One small anecdote in a greater story - but what if things had been different, I wonder. If they hadn't died, but killed, in defence of the riches of the Earth. Not martyrs, but guardians.  Would history have marked them as villains, or elevated them as heroes?

[She gives the camera a look which suggests she already has some strong ideas about the answer, and then her communicator switches off.]

[Private to Erik; Text]

My abilities have been restored.
truth_is_cold: (rhade - what is this shit?)

[Private]

[personal profile] truth_is_cold 2012-09-05 09:07 pm (UTC)(link)
[Welp, there are about 200 places that this post hits home. He doesn't know whether or not to comment on it. He wants to, but he senses a person teetering at the edge of a tirade.

It's not as though he hasn't had plenty of his own. Ultimately, he does decide to say something.]

I suspect that they would have been villains to someone, either way. And especially the way that would push a statist agenda.
truth_is_cold: (rhade - orly)

[Private]

[personal profile] truth_is_cold 2012-09-05 09:21 pm (UTC)(link)
That is true, and no, I don't. But, I don't think a government would care about the consequences of their actions or what the intention of the protectors was so long as they incited loyalty and pride. [That's been his experience, anyway.] It's another thing for a single person to look on someone's acts with admiration rather than a vapid horde.
truth_is_cold: (rhade - pondering)

[Private]

[personal profile] truth_is_cold 2012-09-06 02:27 am (UTC)(link)
I am admittedly little biased, both in that their research helped give rise to my kind, and that I've seen how the names of people that fought for one cause had their work corrupted hundreds of years later by both sides. One side using them as an example of extremism when everything that was done was necessary, one side using them as an example of their right to subjugate others. [Which is where his group hatred comes from.]

I have difficulty in viewing things as acts of "evil" or "good" but I strongly suspect they might have been perceived as villains, no matter the necessity. [He's also kind of a cynic.]
truth_is_cold: (rhade - tux broody)

[Private]

[personal profile] truth_is_cold 2012-09-06 07:48 am (UTC)(link)
Because most people don't know what it is to believe in something so much, that you would give up your life, your family, your friends in pursuit of it. Nor do they want to try to understand.

In their position, I likely would fight, and I would kill, and I wouldn't care that I was seen as a villain. [Okay, he does care because it fucks up his descendent's good name, but he has to deal because it had to happen.]